Feb 3, 2011

The Lost Boys...Q and A, Trivia

I posted a few days ago about watching 'The Lost Boys' and I had intended to write about the movie, and the two sequels that followed, but I got sidetracked and ended up writing about other things and had to bookmark this post to come back to and finish, so here it is.

I had always heard about the 'cult classic' movie that starred the two Corey's and Kiefer Sutherland. It was something I knew of but never saw. I even bought a vintage t-shirt on Ebay with the movie poster on it over the summer! If you haven't seen it yet and decide to watch it on my recommendation, remember I am not saying the visual effects or plot or even the acting are going knock your socks off. It probably won't. What watching the movie now did for me was allow me to be nostalgic for the kids on that screen. Corey Haim and Corey Feldman were still just kids, and both were alive. Kiefer Sutherland was a teen who had never heard of a show called '24'. Jamie Gertz is in this movie and she is totally different from the stuck up, obnoxious snob I remember her being in 'Square Pegs'.

When I started talking about this movie in my last post I asked if there might be a significance to the Jim Morrison poster on the wall in the vampires lair (there is).   I also wanted to know if calling the movie 'The Lost Boys' had anything to do with one of my favorite stories- Peter Pan (it does). A quick Wikipedia search led me to this trivia page so here are the interesting facts about this movie, followed by the two others.   Glad to finally be a part of the history of this movie!

Trivia forThe Lost Boys (1987)

The title of the film is a reference to the companions of Peter Pan, who remained forever young.

The original screenplay written by Janice Fischer and James Jeremias was originally about a bunch of "Goonie-type 5th-6th grade kid vampires", with the Frog Brothers being "chubby 8 year old cub scouts", and Star being a boy instead of a love interest. Joel Schumacher hated that idea and told the producers he would only sign on if he could change them to teenagers, as he thought it would be more much sexier and interesting.

Both Corey Feldman, who plays Edgar Frog, and Barnard Hughes, who plays Grandpa, share the same birthday, July 16th.

This movie invented the phrase "vamp out", which has passed into common usage on"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997).

Keenan Wynn and John Carradine (a veteran of vampire films) were both original choices for Grandpa. Wynn died right before filming and Carradine was too ill.

Executive producer Richard Donner originally intended to direct the movie himself, but as production languished, he moved onto Lethal Weapon (1987) and eventually hired Joel Schumacher for the job.

Kiefer Sutherland was only meant to wear the black gloves he wears as David when riding the motorbike. However, while messing around on the bike behind-the-scenes, he fell off, breaking his arm so he had to wear the gloves through the whole movie to cover his cast.

Though almost all of Kelly Jo Minter's scenes are deleted from the film, and the only true appearance she makes is over Lucy's shoulder in the video store, she still received billing the film's opening credits. Her scenes can be viewed in the 2004 Lost Boys DVD special features.

Sam (Corey Haim) has a poster of Rob Lowe on the outside of his closet door. On the DVD commentary, Joel Schumacher says that it was there because had recently directed Lowe in St. Elmo's Fire (1985).

The names of the Frog brothers, Edgar and Alan, are a reference to Edgar Allan Poe, the well-known writer of horror fiction.

After Richard Donner passed on directing, Mary Lambert, was brought in, but left due to "creative differences".

Characters in the movie say the name 'Michael' approximately 118 times.

Corey Feldman said in the documentary "bloodsucking cinema" that all of the blood in "the lost boys" had glitter in it, and was "slimier than other fake blood."

When Max first arrives at Sam, Lucy and Michael's house for dinner he does not enter until invited in by Michael. This echoes many vampire films in that, according to vampire myths, vampires must be invited in before they can enter someone's home.

The movie was filmed in Santa Cruz, CA. Santa Cruz in Spanish means "Holy Cross," which is an interesting connection given the vampire subject matter and their vulnerability to crucifixes.

In the opening sequence there is a random crowd shot that includes an older man in the distance with thick glasses wearing a Gothic looking hooded black robe. While his appearance is in line with the "spooky" factor of the film, he is in fact a semi-nomadic Christian (that this poster knows from having personally met the individual).

It is not shown for long, but Laddie is a missing boy, the boy on the milk carton that Lucy picks up off the floor. He is not any relation to Star, just a boy the vampires picked up as a companion for Star.

Both of the two 1987 movies about a "family" of attractive vampires who lure a young man and make him into a half-vampire before he is eventually "cured" (Near Dark (1987) and The Lost Boys (1987)) feature a son of Jason Miller in their casts: Joshua John Miller is in Near Dark, and his half-brother Jason Patric is in The Lost Boys.

The second time Sam visits the comic shop two men can be seen playing pinball. The guy with the facial hair is Joe Ferrara who actually owned the comic shop Atlantis fantasy world. The comic shop has now moved location but is still owed by Joe.

Both the bandstand that the band is playing on the first time Michael sees Star and the Frog Brothers comic book shop were destroyed in the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake.

This was Corey Haim and Corey Feldman's first film together, which marked the start of a popular 90s trend "The Two Corey's" in which Corey Feldman and Corey Haim starred together in a number of teenage films.

**** WARNING: Here Be Spoilers ****
Trivia items below here contain information that may give away important plot points. You may not want to read any further if you've not already seen this title.
SPOILER: 'David' (Kiefer Sutherland) is impaled on a pair of antlers and doesn't disintegrate like the other vampires. Despite what Max later says, he is not really dead. This was intended to be picked up in the sequel, "The Lost Girls", which was scripted but never made. In the Wildstorm comic's mini-series "The Lost Boys: Reign of the Frogs" (2008) - which helps bridge the 20-year gap between films - it's implied that 'David' not only survived the impaling but went on to create 'Shane' the head vampire in Lost Boys: The Tribe (2008).

SPOILER: The movie didn't originally end on a joke. After the scene with Grampa at the refrigerator, it was supposed to cut to the surviving Lost Boys regrouping in the sunken hotel. The last shot was of a mural on the wall, made in the early 1900s, with Max in it - looking exactly the same as he did today. All of this appeared in an early draft of the script, but ultimately was never filmed.

SPOILER: In the cave of the Lost Boys you can see a poster of Jim Morrison who recorded the original version of "People are Strange" with The Doors. And when Star and Laddie are being carried into Sam's room, you can see a poster of Echo & the Bunnymen who recorded the version used in the movie.

SPOILER: The merry-go-round sequence foreshadows the order in which the Lost Boys die. Marko dies first, Paul second, Dwayne third and David last.

I like watching movies that become cult classics over time.   After I watched this one, I watched the two sequels as well and while they were far from good (in fact, they were kind of downright awful) it was fun to see the storyline continue.   
The Lost Boys: The Tribe was released in 2008 and wasn't that connected to the first one- it could have stood on it's own despite all the references to the original.   The story is about vampires and there are some funny moments but it's sort of a cheap slasher flick riding on the coat tails of the original.   But that's ok with me- because it's fun to keep the story alive.

Lost Boys: The Tribe

Corey Haim and Corey Feldman are the only cast members from the The Lost Boys(1987) to return. Jamison Newlander also returned but his scenes were deleted.
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Before this film entered development, three ideas for a sequel to The Lost Boys were considered. One was a prequel focusing David ('Keifer Sutherland') and how he became a vampire, another was titled "The Lost Girls" and another titled "Lost Boys: Devil May Cry".
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Corey Feldman was originally reluctant to re-appear as Edgar Frog but changed his mind when he was offered a larger part in the story.
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Accompanied by a prequel comic book series titled "Lost Boys: Reign of Frogs".
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This film was intended to be a remake of the original set in modern day with Corey Feldman just making a cameo as a homage to the original.
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Autumn Reeser, who played Nicole Emerson, despised filming the scenes in which she was covered in blood stating it was 'disgusting' and 'really sticky.' 

In the third one- The Lost Boys: The Thirst (released in 2010) you only get one Corey, because sadly Corey Haim had already passed away.   There are a lot of small nods to him throughout the film and I would guess it was hard to Feldman to make this one.  Feldman seems to be over-acting, trying too hard, at first.   It was starting to irritate me but then I read other reviews on IMDB about the movie and realized what they knew already- he wasn't overacting, he was playing the character the same way as he had in the original!

Lost Boys: The Thirst

Despite turning down a role in this film, Corey Haim announced he would take part in a fourth installment. But he died before anything could come of the project.
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After Edgar is thrown into the comic book shelves, a copy of 'Lost Boys: Reign of Frogs' can be seen as he starts to get up.
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